The Outerview with Alan Swan

The Outerview is a series of conversations dissecting the art of interviewing, media & storytelling hosted by Alan Swan. Alan talks with writers, producers and broadcasters – hearing their techniques, their influences and their stories.
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Nov 2, 2017

This week Alan talks to best-selling author and marketer Bernadette Jiwa about her latest book 'Hunch'.

Bernadette is a recognised global authority on the role of story in business, innovation and marketing and the author of five best-selling books on marketing and brand storytelling. She advises, consults and speaks to entrepreneurs and business leaders who want to build meaningful brands. 


Oct 26, 2017

This week Alan talks media interviewing, storytelling & facing fears with Actor, Writer & Perfumer Richard E. Grant.

Richard E Grant was born in 1957 and grew up in Swaziland. He moved to England in 1982 and made his acting debut in 1987 with Withnail and I, Bruce Robinson's cult film. He has since starred in numerous Hollywood films and TV dramas, including Gosford Park, Dracula, The Iron Lady and most recently Logan. Richard has also showcased his interview skills on Sky Atlantic’s 'Richard E. Grant's Hotel Secrets'.

He is the author of a book of film diaries "With Nails: The Film Diaries of Richard E Grant" and the novel "By Design: A Hollywood Tale". He has written for the Sunday Times, Observer and Vanity Fair. An exploration of his life-long love affair with scent, Richard E. Grant's Jack perfume has also been a huge success.

Oct 13, 2017

Jack Murray is the CEO & Founder at All Good Tales + In this episode we discuss all things storytelling and his beautiful book 'The Storyteller's Manifesto'


Oct 5, 2017

Scott Solder is an expert in language, advanced communication and human behaviour. He is a co-author of ‘You Need This Book To Get What You Want’, a popular psychology book focused on personal performance, influence and persuasion which is on sale around the world and translated into several languages.

He is an experienced journalist and live broadcaster and has appeared as a commentator on BBC1, BBC2, Channel 5, Sky News and BBC radio analysing the language and behaviour of key public figures.

As well as his specialist expertise, he has a strong news sense having been an Executive Producer and Editor in BBC News & Current Affairs and Programme Director of LBC radio. He has covered the biggest stories of the past two decades both out in the field and in the newsroom.


Nov 18, 2016

This week Alan’s guest is Irish broadcaster Rick O'Shea. Rick has been a radio presenter with RTÉ since 2001. His weekend show includes music and has included interviews with One Direction, Daniel Craig, Russell Brand, The Manic Street Preachers, Daniel Radcliffe and Bill Bailey as well as live performances from the likes of Ed Sheeran, Bell X1 and Stereophonics. The show has twice won Bronze PPI Radio Awards. He’s also the presenter of The Poetry Programme on RTÉ Radio 1. He regularly introduces movie premières and has conducted public interviews at the Dublin International Film Festival for the last few years with Richard Dreyfus, Danny DeVito, Michael Madsen and Harry Shearer. He also hosted author interviews in recent times with guests as diverse as playwright Simon Stephens, authors Anthony Horowitz, Eoin Colfer and Chris Cleave, journalist  Johann Hari at Dublin’s International Literature Festival and Graham Norton at Listowel Writers Week.

Nov 11, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Lynn Barber.

Lynn Barber is widely regarded as one of Britain’s best celebrity interviewers. Her interviews have won five British Press Awards and a What the Papers Say award. A memoir of Barber's career as a celebrity interviewer, A Curious Career, was published in May 2014. She has written for Vanity Fair, The Sunday Times, The Daily Telegraph and The Observer. She now writes for the Sunday Times. 

An Education, a 2009 coming-of-age drama film is based on a memoir of her life. The film was nominated for three Academy Awards in 2010 including Best Picture.

Nov 4, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Craig Bruce.

Craig is the former Head of Content at Southern Cross Austereo in Australia. his true passion has always been the development and mentoring of young talent. He now works as a talent coach and radio consultant.
His podcast Game Changers features intimate conversations with the men and women who have known success and failure in their radio careers. The podcast is the end result of an idea formed after working for more than 20 years in Australian radio. 
Oct 26, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Jarlath Regan. Based in London, Jarlath is a comedian and creator of the award-winning Irishman Abroad Podcast, a series of weekly podcasts interviewing Irish people about their lives and insights into the experiences of Irish people abroad. “The Outerview” is a collection of resources, opinions & podcasts on the art of media interviewing. It looks to explore what it takes to conduct the perfect interview from dissecting classic interviews to discussing techniques with some of the worlds leading interviewers. Alan Swan is an award wining producer for Raidió Teilifís Éireann, Ireland's Public Service Multi-Media Organisation and author of music chronicle 'From the Cradle to the Stage'


Oct 19, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Ariel Helwani

Ariel Helwani has been covering mixed martial arts professionally since 2006 and is regarded as the most influential UFC/MMA broadcaster in the world. He is the reigning five-time World MMA Award Journalist of the Year winner. Born in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Helwani currently resides in Brooklyn, NY with his wife and two kids.

Ariel Helwani Biography

“The Outerview” is a collection of resources, opinions & podcasts on the art of media interviewing.

It explores what it takes to conduct the perfect interview from dissecting classic interviews to discussing techniques with some of the worlds leading interviewers

Host Alan Swan is an award wining producer for Raidió Teilifís Éireann, Ireland's Public Service Multi-Media Organisation and author of music chronicle 'From the Cradle to the Stage'

Jun 16, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Ryan Tubridy. Ryan Tubridy is a radio and television broadcaster on RTÉ. He presents a weekday morning show from 9-10am, The Ryan Tubridy Show on RTÉ Radio 1 and is also the host of The Late Late Show, Ireland's most popular TV show and the world's longest running chat show on RTÉ One. In the UK, he began working with BBC Radio 2 in 2011 and since then he has covered for Graham Norton, Ken Bruce, Chris Evans’ Breakfast Show and Simon Mayo’s Drivetime Show. ​Ryan has authored two books to date. His first book JFK in Ireland, is a profile of U.S. His second book, The Irish Are Coming, Tubridy examines the relationship between Britain and Ireland. For his third book, Ryan writes his first children’s book Patrick and the President which will be released in 2017.

May 16, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Jim Carroll, Irish journalist with the Irish Times Jim Carroll is a music and music business writer for The Irish Times. He compiles the multi award-winning On the Record blog, which covers everything and anything from music and media to technology, sport, politics, culture and TV. He also produces and hosts the Banter discussions, talks and events which occur at a variety of different venues and festivals. In this episode Jim explains how curiosity plays a huge role in the art of interviewing, why Graham Norton is in his eyes the best at what he does and the one major question in his career he should have asked but didn't.

Apr 14, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Claire Byrne, Irish journalist & broadcaster. Claire Byrne is an Irish journalist & broadcaster best known for her RTÉ One television show 'Claire Byrne Live' and also her radio show 'Saturday with Claire Byrne' on RTÉ Radio 1 which questions agendas, dissects the week gone by, and debates the likely issues of the week to come. In this episode Claire remembers an interview which had a major effect on her, how not to impress Donny Osmond in a interview and declaring her love publicly for broadcaster Gay Byrne. For more on 'The Outerview' visit or Tweet Alan @alanswan

Mar 30, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Gayl Murphy AKA THE CELEBRITIZER ~ Hollywood Correspondent, Media Expert, Speaker and Author. Gayl Murphy is an award-winning Hollywood correspondent, media and presentational coach, speaker and the Author of “Interview Tactics! How to Survive the Media without Getting Clobbered! The Insider’s Guide To Giving A Killer Interview!” As a Hollywood correspondent, Gayl covers celebrities, star–studded events and movers and shakers. She’s reported on, worked with and interviewed over 15,000 celebrities in Hollywood. In this episode Gayl explains how if you can't tell it you can't sell it, how to create targeted talking points and soundbites & what her term "inner-view" means.

Feb 11, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to author & podcaster Srini Rao Srini Rao is the host and founder of "The Unmistakable Creative podcast" where he has conducted over 600 interviews with thought leaders and people from all walks of life. He has also written multiple books including the WSJ Best Seller "The Art of Being Unmistakable", created planned and executed a conference called The Instigator Experience and recently signed an offer with Penguin Portfolio to write 2 books. Extracting unmistakable stories out of people is his superpower! In this episode Srini explains how not coming from a traditional media background has been a huge advantage, how not everyone should start a podcast series & why silence pauses can be your friend.

Jan 25, 2016

In this episode Alan chats to Irish broadcaster Marty Whelan. Arguably one of Ireland’s favourite broadcasters, Marty Whelan is a much loved Award-winning radio and TV personality who frequently Hosts and MCs conferences and events all over Ireland. As well as charity work, and being seen and heard on RTÉ radio and television, Marty has presented a variety of shows including Winning Streak, Open House, Celebrity Bainisteoir and many more. Every morning Marty takes the chill out of early morning starts with music, news, weather and travel updates on the popular show, ‘Marty in the Morning’ on RTE LyricFM and recently launched his memoir, ‘That’s Life’ in Dublin.

Dec 3, 2015

In this episode Alan chats to the author of 'How To Make Great Radio' David Lloyd. David Lloyd has spent a lifetime in radio and has worked with some of the UK's biggest names. An award-winning broadcaster, he was part of the first wave of commercial radio in the 1980s. He later joined the Radio Authority where he was given responsibility for overseeing compliance across the commercial radio industry; and he played a part in devising the framework for DAB in the UK. A Fellow of the Radio Academy, he has been MD and Programme Director of LBC, a programmer for Virgin Radio and a BBC manager and broadcaster. He is now Group Editorial Director at Orion Media. In this episode David explains how preparing too hard can sometimes mean you forget to engage in natural conversation. How listening back to your interviews is really important in improving your craft, while David tips a future broadcaster star in the making who already is an expert in the art of interviewing.

Nov 25, 2015

In this episode Alan chats to UK producer and director of White Pebble Media, Laura Parfitt who specialises in making high quality speech radio for all the major BBC networks and commercial stations. As a producer, executive producer and editor Laura has worked on a wide range of output - current affairs documentaries, general feature programmes, religious programmes, live OBs, magazine sequence programmes, popular culture, arts, science, crafted social features, podcasts, as well as comedy, drama, and quiz shows. This includes shows such as Desert Island Discs, Loose Ends, The Treatment for BBC 5 Live, and many youth documentaries for BBC Radio 1. In this episode Laura explains why the very first point of contact of a interview; the introductory email is so important, how never to accept the first answer to a question and memories of her first ever interview involving the legendary nature presenter Sir David Attenborough.

Nov 17, 2015

In this episode Alan chats to British radio presenter and writer Geoff Lloyd, best known for his radio show on Absolute Radio, as well as TV writing credits which include: TFI Friday for Channel 4, Comic Relief for BBC One, and the sell-out Cakes and Ale at the Edinburgh Festival. In this episode Geoff speaks about how to work around PR stipulations regarding a guest, how the best conversations come from having an opinion, and how a recent interview with Adele highlighted how important research is. Follow @theovpodcast on Twitter.

Nov 11, 2015

In this episode Alan chats to Irish broadcaster & writer Dave Fanning. Famous for always getting the first play of every U2 record, Dave is a renowned music interviewer owning an archive of interviews running into the thousands with the likes of Bob Dylan, Radiohead & Neil Young. Here Dave discusses how he believes revered UK interviewer Michael Parkinson is boring as hell, how TV star Graham Norton is the benchmark, conducting political interviews in Cambodia and who made him nervous to interview. Dave also talks about how he feels the ultimate goal of the art of interviewing is a conversation. Follow @theovpodcast on Twitter.